When I was a very young man one of my best friend’s Dad was
running for city council and they asked me to help them deliver flyers door to
door. The Father (who won in spite of
what I am about to tell you) told me, “Call adults by their first names. They love that.” I couldn’t do it despite his prodding. Mom had long beaten it into us (figuratively)
that one never calls anybody by their first name unless invited to do so. So it will ever be, “Mrs. Jones” until she says,
“Oh please, call me Mary.”
Now I will admit that I have relaxed this rule quite a bit
being a pastor as too often I have found people offended that I call them by
their surname, there being understood a more intimate relationship between
pastor and flock. But I still recommend
calling a priest by his surname “Father Jones” unless he offers otherwise, “Oh
please call me Father Jack – or Jack.”
I don’t go by my first name - ever. And by ever I mean since I was born. I had two uncles, and a grandpa named
John. There were 5 Johns in my grade
school class, and 2 out of the 5 men in my ordination class are named
John. So I’ve always gone by various
aliases none of which is very conducive with the priesthood. It also helps a lot when trying to figure out
who you are talking about. Often a
person will come up to me and say something like, “Do you know Father Mark?”
and I might respond, “Which one? There
are a bunch of Fr. Marks.” “Well, he’s
about this tall and has hair that kind of does this thing . . .” “I might know which one you are talking
about. What about him?” “He wants you to call him.”
Anyway, there are a good number of reasonable explanations
for why a priest might want to only go by his surname and it is just common
courtesy (with anyone) to begin there.
A priest is properly addressed as “Father” as in “Hey! Father Jones!
How’s it going?” One would never
say in Catholic circles, “Hey! Reverend
Jones! How’s it going?” “The Reverend” is used when speaking of the
priest in the third person such as in “Our speaker today will be The Rev. Jack
Jones.” In written formal capacities
(such as on envelopes, programs, and the like) he is referred to as “The Rev.
John Jones.” “The reverend” never stands
alone as in, “I talked to the reverend about it.” That would be like saying, “I talked to the
Mr. about it.” “The reverend” is also never used with just the last name as in
The Rev. Jones.
THAT BEING SAID these rules are so often trampled over that
to use the proper salutations sometimes seems wrong. “Father” is often used in formal situation
such as in wedding programs. “Celebrant
. . . . Father Jack Jones.” And very
often “Reverend” is used with the article dropped. In fact, this is so often done that even some
very reputable Catholic etiquette books will offer this as an option in certain
situations even though, strictly speaking, it was not intended to be used in
this way though now it is excepted often enough.
2 comments:
Father Valencheck,
I have fallen away from the "Hello, Mr. Schwansen" greeting (if we've never met) and have relied on "Hello, Tim (Schwansen)" and it has seemed to work well, but I'm not sure as no one has ever corrected me. I will try to get back to the "Mr. Schwansen" with a quick request following, "May I call you,Tim?"
You didn't address - "Hi, Father!" or "How are you doing today, Father?" and was curious as to the proper way to address you. Should I include "Valencheck" with the "Father" each time I address you?
P.S. I can't tell you how much I love your posts.
God Bless,
Mr. Bills
Ha!
Yes.
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