FINDING TRUTH WHEREVER IT MAY BE FOUND: "One might say that our scientific worldview is closer to ancient Baal worship which held impersonal forces a supreme power in this world." from Scott Hahn's, "A Father Who Keeps His Promises"
QUOTE II - "It must be dreadful for you to have no one to love you and to take care of you! I think the rules of your Church are simply cruel! Just fancy! - no one to mend your shirts and socks and things - how ever do you manage?" - from Marie Corelli's "Holy Orders"
IN OTHER NEWS:How capitol! Here's an invite from Jay to Catholic Carnival 197!
Undoubtedly you have heard that there are changes a comin' to the Mass with the revision of the new Missal. Actually it is an un-revision as they are attempting to recapture the actual wording of the Mass in English. If you want a quick look to see what may be coming, have gander at this from the USCCB. Here is some more information.
Saint Sebastian is beginning to podcast homilies. Actually the only one up is from a few weeks ago thus far - but look here if you are interested.
L.L. sent this cool site in! "Just type in the name of any song that was ever played, and see what happens. Then, following the end of the song, it will keep playing songs of the same era forever."
The Diocese of Cleveland Enewsletter has this link to CNS concerning Pope Benedict's letter to President elect Obama.
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Finally, more translations more faithful to the Latin text! Yahoo!!!!
Ad orientem is just around the corner!
Does ad orientum make it more a sacrifice than Jesus' usual one, anonymous? Would it mean we are assured of Purgatory?
Jesus didn't speak Latin, nor did Peter. Nor Paul. Bottomline, even a clown Mass is Mass.
I agree, Carol, a clown Mass is still a Mass, granted that it is neither illicit nor invalid (sometimes I wonder, though). Ad orientem is, for me, a question lex orandi, lex credendi.
Like my mom always said, posture is important. We kneel during the consecration because it is a physical way to express what we believe. If we didn't kneel, Jesus would still be present in the Eucharist, but perhaps we wouldn't appreciate the momentousness of what is really happening. Likewise, when the priest says Mass ad orientem, it reflects more accurately what we believe—all God’s people turning to Him to worship. If you think of the words of the Eucharistic prayer, it really makes more sense for the priest to be facing the same way as the people. A pastor in South Carolina gave a good, coherent explanation of and reasons for the practice.
http://www.stmarysgvl.org/whatsnew/turning-together-towards-the-lord
I see your point, and I myself have advocated (privately and respectfully) for more traditional observance, but I've watched the world spinning slowly down to die for decades, now, and I now ask: What change in our Mass would make a difference to Christ? What change in our Mass would make a real difference to our lives?
I grew up with the 10 o'clock High Mass, and not only did I and all my friends and half of my parents still act up, I didn't come to know Christ from the Mass/Church. (Wasn't that the Church's whole point?) My learning of God's love for us came from reading Chaim Potok, Pearl Buck, Solzhenitsyn, Christ Among Us, a Protestant Bible, and then finally, Jesuits. Only from the Jesuits did I know that Christ's Incarnation was from love of us.
We Catholics split hairs over the darnedest things, now, and have a million if-onlies... meanwhile, I hear from 2nd and 4th graders that they're not sure of their church's name (i.e., I'm here for the sacrament--we don't go to Mass); I hear 7th grade r.e. students laughing at tales of demonics in the bible (i.e., satan's not real!); and I hear 10th gr (third year of prep) Confirmation class teens making plans to lose their (embarrassing) virginity asap.
It's perhaps a little different for teachers of the faith than for laity, but we need to crawl out of our rubrics-studded Catholic navels and introduce Christ around to our friends and loved ones as if we've found Him in the Gospels. Rome would do well to make Church-guided Scripture study for all ages an utter priority/mandatory.
Ah! Thank you for the pod cast!
I have too issues:)
first: Obama is pro-abortion. http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm
I wonder, how does our church and pope deal with this? How many more innocent lifes will end in this genocide all around the world? I've also heard that Obama is only a lamb some behind the scenes powers are going to use to push some negative things into US.
second:
I am not from an English speaking country and it is really strange for me that right now the words of english Mass are not the same not as in latin but in most of languages I've looked up. Like for example when a priest raises up the communion and people say "Lord, I am not worthy to receive you, but only say the word and I shall be healed."
In my language and in latin and many other languages it goes: "Lord, I am not worthy, for you to enter under my roof. But only say the word and my soul shall be healed."
I think that latin is used as a base, because during middleages it became a church language and still is. I personally prefer mass in my language, but it's nice to have an alternative, especially in larger cities with lots of foreigners.
..I've thought about old way of priest and people facing the same direction. But new way has its meanings too. We are all around the altar, around the table of christ, we are on his dinner. I think it is a nice symbol too.
Yes, and a good reminder about the value of a universal language of Mass. Here's how I feel about it: One of the things I've loved most these many years is to watch the consecrated Host elevated as we hear John the Baptist's words, "Behold the Lamb of God.." followed by the Centurion's words, "Lord, I am not worthy..." I think of Jesus', "If (when!) I be lifted up" (such as was Moses' staff), and I always hope I can retain that sight of Him eucharisticly raised, for us, forever--tho' having cared for folks with Alzheimers', I know that I may not retain any of this, and must offer any loss in advance. But the thing is, we know this moment in any language --and the one before it, whether with or without bells (tho' we prefer bells!). We know the Kyrie, the Agnus Dei, the Pater Noster, the Eucharistic prayer(s) in any language, don't we?
As for Obama, my sense of horror is dying down a bit. I'll be the last one to say the fat lady has definitively sung (the dramatic opera is not over, yet), because Christ said, "But fear not, for I have overcome the world." However, it was oppressively dark for a few days in November '08, yes. The Pope can only say of Caesar that which Christ said, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and render unto God that which is God's." What is God's? Actually everything that we are aware of is His, along with everything we are not aware of (per our Creed), but specifically our(/others') bodies and our(/others') souls are not to be rendered unto Caesar. These are sacred.
The whole Obama thing is scary, as well as exhausting. Here is a man who, even tho' he says clearly that he will be agreeable to killing anything that moves (or still moves after an abortion attempt), and even tho' he says clearly that he will be just as much a pre-emptive warmonger as the last Caesar (except for a good reason this time!), even Catholic people yelled for this smiling Barabbas to be released unto us. Not that the other fellow was exactly the Son of Man, but he was indeed the greater of the two. Please pray for America, Foxie.
And about the podcast.. an awesome offering. You sounded just the way I thought you would, Fr. V., and amen to the "obligation to be joyful." Satan has tried everything, now (I refer to the scandals as well as to the attacks on the Council and its Popes), to dismantle our joy. He'll never quit, but we'll never succumb entirely. The anti-despair prayer composed for a languishing young cleric by St. Margaret Mary's Jesuit confessor, St. Claude de la Colombiere, comes rushing forth to guard joy. In it, he says others will testify to Him by their holiness, but that he is in this world to show others what kind of mercy Jesus has for sinners; he accuses himself clearly, but hopes to not offend Christ further by inferring that He is not kind enough to forgive him. Amen.
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