FINDING TRUTH WHEREVER IT MAY BE FOUND: “We are subjects of the King of Heaven in the richest and most powerful nation on earth.” Archbishop Niederaurer
QUOTE II: “There was never anything so perilous or exciting as orthodoxy.” G. K. Chesterton
IN OTHER NEWS:
Habemus Papem (from whom we've not heard in a while - good to hear from you) has se
nt in this new site from the Nashville Dominicans. It is for those considering a priestly or religious life (or for the curious.)
QUOTE II: “There was never anything so perilous or exciting as orthodoxy.” G. K. Chesterton
IN OTHER NEWS:
Habemus Papem (from whom we've not heard in a while - good to hear from you) has se
nt in this new site from the Nashville Dominicans. It is for those considering a priestly or religious life (or for the curious.)This picture stolen from Fr. Z:
The Diocese of Cleveland Enewsletter reprinted this speech by a prominant Jewish business leader. "The following is a transcript of a speech made by Mr. Sam Miller, co-chairman of Forest City Enterprises in Cleveland, Ohio. His speech was made at a luncheon gathering of the First Friday Club of Cleveland on Thursday, March 6, 2003." If you would like to read it click here.
Frank sent in this site from Creighton Jesuit University. They asked the faculty, staff, and administrators to comment on the readings of the day each day of the year. Might be interesting! Have a look.
B sent this in. I can't remember if I posted it or not so here it is. It's a trailer for a movie (2:45) called Blood Money. See what you think. Here is a site about the movie.The Diocese of Cleveland Enewsletter reprinted this speech by a prominant Jewish business leader. "The following is a transcript of a speech made by Mr. Sam Miller, co-chairman of Forest City Enterprises in Cleveland, Ohio. His speech was made at a luncheon gathering of the First Friday Club of Cleveland on Thursday, March 6, 2003." If you would like to read it click here.
Frank sent in this site from Creighton Jesuit University. They asked the faculty, staff, and administrators to comment on the readings of the day each day of the year. Might be interesting! Have a look.
5 comments:
Father, Thanks for the information on Mr. Miller's speech--it's been circulating on the internet. Nice to know that the person and the remarks are reliable. Fr. Groeschel read Mr. Miller's speech at the beginning of his program this past Sunday evening.
Mr. Miller's speech is wonderful and am glad to see it get so much attention on the net. I did read a suggestion a while ago that the speech contains one serious statistical error. Miller says that "10% of Protestant ministers have been found guilty of pedophilia" and this number is being contested as inaccurate. It seems that Miller may have accidentally misquoted his source. The actual percentage of Protestant minister pedophiles is much closer to the high end estimates of 2% of priests, Protestants being about 2 or 3%. That's actually really good news since 1 out of 10 Protestant ministers as pedophiles is quite alarming! It has been stated that the original text of Miller's sources says that 10% of Protestant ministers have been involved in "sexual misconduct" which is not necessarily strictly pedophilia. The strength of Miller's argument certainly stands in spite of the mistake but it's important to know about the criticism and be prepared if we're going to share the speech.
Keep in mind that I don't really know if any of these numbers are accurate. I'm repeating what I have read regarding Miller's article and am sharing it in case it can be useful to someone.
What . . . . or who . . . . is Habemus Papem. I wish that posters would use their real names.
r m kraus/akron
Is it "Habemus Papem" or "Habemus Papam?" The latter means "We have a Pope." I don't know what "papem" means in Latin.
"Meanwhile, 1.7% of the Catholic clergy has been found guilty of pedophilia. 10% of the Protestant ministers have been found guilty of pedophilia."
This information regarding Protestant ministers has no basis in fact.
Mr. Miller cites a July/August 2002 Sojourners article by Rose Marie Berger in which she misinterprets statements from Penn. State Prof. Philip Jenkins regarding sexual abuse by Protestant ministers.
In the original article Berger writes...
"Philip Jenkins concludes in his book "Pedophiles and Priests" that while 1.7 percent of Catholic clergy have been found guilty of pedophilia (specifically of boys), 10 percent of Protestant ministers have been found guilty of pedophilia." (This quote is used in Miller's speech)
To which Philip Jenkins responds (Sept/Oct 2002)...
"I regret to say that the statement is baloney. I never said it, and it's not true!... Every time this ten percent statement appears attributed to me, I try to debunk it, but these things have a life of their own. I have no idea what the actual proportion of pedophile protestant clergy is, but I would be amazed if it was more than a fraction of one percent."
Sojourners apologized to its readers for passing on erroneous information and revised the article, removing the incorrect and defamatory information. But, regrettably, not before Sam Miller got a hold of it!
Your Brother in Christ...(I hope!)
Rev. Rob Pollock
A Protestant Pastor
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