tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5745814378416915364.post7943494050890265575..comments2023-12-23T00:19:35.005-08:00Comments on ADAM'S ALE: TUESDAY QUOTE OF THE WEEK CLXXIIFr. Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13201561855047420853noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5745814378416915364.post-86546490407804198512010-04-28T16:03:08.719-07:002010-04-28T16:03:08.719-07:00"Meanwhile, 1.7% of the Catholic clergy has b...<i>"Meanwhile, 1.7% of the Catholic clergy has been found guilty of pedophilia. 10% of the Protestant ministers have been found guilty of pedophilia."</i><br /><br />This information regarding Protestant ministers has no basis in fact. <br /><br />Mr. Miller cites a July/August 2002 Sojourners article by Rose Marie Berger in which she misinterprets statements from Penn. State Prof. Philip Jenkins regarding sexual abuse by Protestant ministers.<br /><br />In the original article Berger writes...<br /><i>"Philip Jenkins concludes in his book "Pedophiles and Priests" that while 1.7 percent of Catholic clergy have been found guilty of pedophilia (specifically of boys), 10 percent of Protestant ministers have been found guilty of pedophilia." </i> (This quote is used in Miller's speech)<br /><br />To which Philip Jenkins responds (Sept/Oct 2002)...<br /><br /><i>"I regret to say that the statement is baloney. I never said it, and it's not true!... Every time this ten percent statement appears attributed to me, I try to debunk it, but these things have a life of their own. I have no idea what the actual proportion of pedophile protestant clergy is, but I would be amazed if it was more than a fraction of one percent."</i><br /><br />Sojourners apologized to its readers for passing on erroneous information and revised the article, removing the incorrect and defamatory information. But, regrettably, not before Sam Miller got a hold of it!<br /><br />Your Brother in Christ...(I hope!)<br />Rev. Rob Pollock<br />A Protestant PastorRob Pollockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10009920487591027532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5745814378416915364.post-82175836625583524542010-04-27T13:19:59.439-07:002010-04-27T13:19:59.439-07:00Is it "Habemus Papem" or "Habemus P...Is it "Habemus Papem" or "Habemus Papam?" The latter means "We have a Pope." I don't know what "papem" means in Latin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5745814378416915364.post-20299052442699857772010-04-27T11:56:03.419-07:002010-04-27T11:56:03.419-07:00What . . . . or who . . . . is Habemus Papem. I w...What . . . . or who . . . . is Habemus Papem. I wish that posters would use their real names.<br /><br />r m kraus/akronAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5745814378416915364.post-3625667619928111722010-04-27T11:38:34.985-07:002010-04-27T11:38:34.985-07:00Mr. Miller's speech is wonderful and am glad t...Mr. Miller's speech is wonderful and am glad to see it get so much attention on the net. I did read a suggestion a while ago that the speech contains one serious statistical error. Miller says that "10% of Protestant ministers have been found guilty of pedophilia" and this number is being contested as inaccurate. It seems that Miller may have accidentally misquoted his source. The actual percentage of Protestant minister pedophiles is much closer to the high end estimates of 2% of priests, Protestants being about 2 or 3%. That's actually really good news since 1 out of 10 Protestant ministers as pedophiles is quite alarming! It has been stated that the original text of Miller's sources says that 10% of Protestant ministers have been involved in "sexual misconduct" which is not necessarily strictly pedophilia. The strength of Miller's argument certainly stands in spite of the mistake but it's important to know about the criticism and be prepared if we're going to share the speech. <br /><br />Keep in mind that I don't really know if any of these numbers are accurate. I'm repeating what I have read regarding Miller's article and am sharing it in case it can be useful to someone.melodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08677295427283294982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5745814378416915364.post-67241613047149014012010-04-27T08:31:01.893-07:002010-04-27T08:31:01.893-07:00Father, Thanks for the information on Mr. Miller&#...Father, Thanks for the information on Mr. Miller's speech--it's been circulating on the internet. Nice to know that the person and the remarks are reliable. Fr. Groeschel read Mr. Miller's speech at the beginning of his program this past Sunday evening.Patnoreply@blogger.com