“So do you really think that the government is going to force you to do gay marriages?” he asked out of the blue. The guy is always provocative, (Did you know that the disciples were Communists?) and the conversation, to say the least, interesting.
“It really doesn’t matter because we won’t.”
“But do you really think they’ll try?”
“I don’t know. We’ll have to wait and see.” My bigger concern at the moment is other fall out. I envision a line of lawsuits more aimed at human resource issues or other pressure concerning what is preached at Catholic and likeminded Churches and institutions.
“I believe in marriage equality.”
“But that only works if you change the very definition and purpose of marriage as it has been understood for thousands of years.”
“Gay people have always been accepted in most cultures.” The exact nature of this statement is debatable. The most prominent of examples were almost always connected to marriage between a man and woman such as in Roman times. But that is not the point. It is easy to get sidetracked. The discussion was not about any person and whether that person is worthy of dignity and respect, but a debate about the definition of marriage.
“That may be, but we are talking about same sex marriage which was not.”
“You do know that marriage is just a man made construct?” Another curve ball and debatable if one is willing to engage.
“If we throw out the Bible and natural law you might be able to make that statement.”
“I don’t get my definitions from a book.”
“Sorry, I just don’t”
“Okay.” If you cannot bring in Western culture, natural law, or the Bible, then he is absolutely correct: Law is whatever those with power say it is and there is nothing left to be said.
There is a break in the conversation. Then he adds, “I’m going to (some place) next week. My daughter is getting married to another woman.”
That last comment is important. It has absolutely nothing to do with above debate about the definition of marriage. But it lets you know how intimate a topic this is for the person. This is why it is essential that the conversation never become too heated, too personal. The conversation would not have lasted longer than a sentence and you would have been marked as an angry bitter person and written off.
Pray, think, act in peace.