tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5745814378416915364.post3371557710619857276..comments2023-12-23T00:19:35.005-08:00Comments on ADAM'S ALE: HABITUALLY INHABITED HABITATSFr. Vhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13201561855047420853noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5745814378416915364.post-32646002752700283952007-08-13T10:04:00.000-07:002007-08-13T10:04:00.000-07:00If one looks only at the photos in this post, one ...If one looks only at the photos in this post, one really needs add nothing. I generally don't let that stop me from commenting, lol, tho' in truth, I long for the day when we won't have to communicate with such slippery slopes as words. <BR/><BR/>What I also see, beyond peace and joy and commitment, is muted gender attributes. Isn't that what those who are consecrated to God want? That no one else look upon them as couple-able? Of course, I'm lingering dangerously near the slippery slope of words regarding celibacy, and not all the priesthood is celibate. So I'll veer back: Who invented the habit? Was it not Mary, who wove for Jesus, the garment in one piece that He wore. Is that not the same linen we don for the sacraments of Baptism and First Communion; is it not the same linens that drape our altars.. and also, one day, our coffin? We go from linen to linen. I would not trade a holy habit for clothes of the world.<BR/><BR/>And if those who work hard to be "clothed" with a tiny scrap of brown felt, or a tiny Tau (a tiny habit that <I>isn't</I> seen--the hiddenness being of a voluntary poverty but sometimes also of an INvoluntary poverty for Love) were given the option, would they wear a full habit? I think most would. Don't you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5745814378416915364.post-61233877026735682142007-08-13T07:49:00.000-07:002007-08-13T07:49:00.000-07:00No argument from me Adoro. I agree with you. The...No argument from me Adoro. I agree with you. The reason for the post was two fold: in general I think you are right but I also think that there are some people whose orders became unhabited and they are still good and loyal people - without a choice - and I wanted them to know that that is recognized. And it is not that I think what they are doing is wrong simply by dint of them not having a habit or that in an ideal world their philosophy is sinful - it simply just does not work.<BR/><BR/>The second is connected and EXACTLY what you said - if people are looking for authentic Catholicism and that happens to be not only in a solid community but also a habited one, that is the one that will survive and what we WANT to happen matters little (though I think what I want to happen is what will win out. Time and numbers will tell.) It is a case for survival of the fittest - or habitest.<BR/><BR/>Thanks HP! There's more pictures coming.Fr. Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13201561855047420853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5745814378416915364.post-82067219597930796382007-08-13T06:32:00.000-07:002007-08-13T06:32:00.000-07:00Fr. V. ~ While the habit is not necessarily a sign...Fr. V. ~ While the habit is not necessarily a sign of faithfulness (there are habited communities that are not faithful, and there are habitless communities that have remained faithful), there is a strong correlation between the habit and remaining faithful. (sorry about the redundant usage of the same word.) While I was discerning, I went to several web sites of various communities, and what was glaringly obvious was that the vast majority of the orders that had chosen to walk away from the habit also walked away from the Church. It was actually very depressing. <BR/><BR/>I do know some Sisters who work at my parish, and they are identified only with a pin or a necklace - I'm actually not completely sure. But we know who they are if we've been around long enough. I do not question their committment to God or the parish or the Church. But based on some things some of them have said, I do question their theology. <BR/><BR/>Since I can only speak to women's communities, most women today are looking for authentic Catholicism, and we haven't been able to find it in communities that don't wear a habit. We haven't found "the whole package" in those that have been "modernized". Certainly they do great work for the Church, and we even have a local black-eye community whose founder is rolling in her grave, and even they do some wonderful things for the community and the Church. But they aren't attracting vocations because when it comes to giving one's life up for Christ or giving one's life up for the current political agenda...well, that's nothing but a big question mark. So they don't get a lot of vocations, nor do communities like them. <BR/><BR/>I think what happened is some of them went too heavy on "Social Justice" and threw everything else out. <BR/><BR/>No, they don't have to wear habits to be faithful; but the habit certainly is a sign of what is happening internally (within the community). <BR/><BR/>Just my observations.Adorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5745814378416915364.post-4077186830119551622007-08-13T06:17:00.000-07:002007-08-13T06:17:00.000-07:00Fr. V, my favorite person was in the vocations ten...Fr. V, my favorite person was in the vocations tent and yet I see no picture of him ;)Habemus Papamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06387352712014675449noreply@blogger.com